8:14 a.m.
Bill, et al:
I raised this very same issue to Julian during the DDP breakout, even referencing the same
section Saeid mentions below. Julian said the NOA's would not be transmitted nor
validated via the LRIT system. He did not say how NOA's would be transmitted, but did
say Port State requests would be based on the honor system that the Contracting Government
did receive an NOA.
v/r,
John G. Bowman
Project Officer - Amver/CASP/LRIT
USCG OSC
304-264-2667
John.G.Bowman(a)uscg.mil
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On Behalf Of Cairns, William
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:30 PM
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Cc: Bertorelli, John; PeverettT(a)DFO-MPO.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] NOA Issue
Colleagues,
Thanks very much to Saeid for the input on the NOA issue. I regret that I was unable to
speak with Julian about it before we all started to catch flights out of Hamburg. I will
look closer at the IDC spec to ensure there are no inconsistencies in it with regard to
NOA. This issue likely needs to be addressed in the DDP spec as well and the comments
below are hereby forwarded to Julian Longson, the DDP OPI, who is currently reviewing the
entire DDP document with the IMO IT division.
If anyone has comments on NOA - - or any other matter - - as it may effect the IDC spec,
please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks to all for your input.
Best regards,
Bill Cairns, FRIN
Principal Navigation Engineer
Commandant (CG-3PWN) USCG
William.R.Cairns(a)uscg.mil
V: 202-372-1557
F: 202-372-1930
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From: PeverettT(a)DFO-MPO.GC.CA [mailto:PeverettT@DFO-MPO.GC.CA]
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:23 PM
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Cc: Saeid Khorsandi; Bertorelli, John; Cairns, William
Subject: FW: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and BillingStandard
Hello Saeid
This is to confirm that I received your comments, however they do not appear to have been
received by all on the reflector. For that reason I have forwarded your e-mail directly to
Bill Cairns, and am resending your comments to the wider reflector as well.
I am also requesting, by means of this e-mail, that my colleague John Bertorelli check the
reflector to try to determine why some messages are not getting through.
Best regards
Tracy
Tracy Peverett
Senior Policy Analyst
Canadian Coast Guard
Tel: 1-613-990-4046
Fax: 1-613-998-3255
e-mail: peverettT(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca
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From: Saeid Khorsandi [mailto:khorsandi@PSO.IR]
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:10 AM
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Cc: Peverett, Tracy
Subject: RE: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and Billing Standard
Hi Bill /All
Following to our conversation within the Hamburg meeting about the NOA I would like to
inform you that as far as you said in last meeting the NOA is a notice outside of the LRIT
system but according to part 4.4 of Draft Guidance on Setting up and Maintaining the LRIT
Data Distribution Plan :
" Paragraph 16.1.3 contains the standing order for port State tracking. If the
distance from a port is used, then the information from section 11.2.6 must be used in
conjunction with this standing order. Although this is a standing order, a Notice of
Arrival (NOA) must still be transmitted by the Contracting Government through its Data
Centre to the destination Data Centre. The information contained in the standing order
should include, but is not limited to, the following: ship name, IMO ship identification
number, vessel's flag state and the distance from the Contracting Government's
port "
About the access to information as a Port State , as far as you know a Port State request
is always triggered by a Notice of Arrival but who is responsible for sending the NOA and
how? and who will be responsible for confirming access to the information ? Is there any
unique format for NOA in the LRIT system?
For your information currently the format of NOA are different around the world and
being issued by the agent of ships to the destination port which the contracting
government doesn't have any information about the ship destination .
Regards
Khorsandi
Senior expert of marine communication
P.S.O - Iran
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On Behalf Of Peverett, Tracy
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:23 PM
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Cc: hhesse(a)imo.org; ncharala(a)imo.org
Subject: Re: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and Billing Standard
Hello, attached please find the following two documents:
1. IDC spec
2. Annex on technical criteria for location of the IDC
Still to come today are the Comms, IDE and testing specs. DDP update will be circulated
next week.
A reminder that comments on all documents must be received no later than June 29.
Also, given ungoing problems that some of you have been experiencing with the reflector,
it would be appreciated if any comments you might have on this or any of the other
documents be sent to the reflector with a cc directly to me at peverettt(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca
<mailto:peverettt@dfo-mpo.gc.ca> I will respond to all e-mails confirming that
the message has been received via the reflector; if not I will ensure that comments are
distributed to the reflector from this end.
If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at
peverettt(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:peverettt@dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Best regards,
Tracy
Tracy Peverett
Senior Policy Analyst
Canadian Coast Guard
Tel: 1-613-990-4046
Fax: 1-613-998-3255
e-mail: peverettT(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca
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