Although I have refrained from getting involved in your communications thus far you may wish to consider the following: MSC 80 instructed COMSAR 10 to ensure that the ship should not be required to transmit to the LRIT Tracking Service or the LRIT Data Centre, any additional information (except the transmission of a notice that the ship is proceeding to a particular port, to enable the LRIT Data Centre to provide the port State with the LRIT information to which it is entitled) and that the transmission of LRIT information should not require any intervention by shipboard personnel (see MSC 80/24, paragraph 5.97). This decision/instruction was taken after a heated debate and with the intention not to cause any changes to the existing practices of NOA which in some cases are governed by national laws. Nicolas Bill, et al: I raised this very same issue to Julian during the DDP breakout, even referencing the same section Saeid mentions below. Julian said the NOA's would not be transmitted nor validated via the LRIT system. He did not say how NOA's would be transmitted, but did say Port State requests would be based on the honor system that the Contracting Government did receive an NOA. v/r, John G. Bowman Project Officer - Amver/CASP/LRIT USCG OSC 304-264-2667 John.G.Bowman(a)uscg.mil -----Original Message----- From: ccglrit-gcclrit-bounces(a)lists.ncf.ca [mailto:ccglrit-gcclrit-bounces@lists.ncf.ca] On Behalf Of Cairns, William Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:30 PM To: ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca Cc: Bertorelli, John; PeverettT(a)DFO-MPO.GC.CA Subject: Re: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] NOA Issue Colleagues, Thanks very much to Saeid for the input on the NOA issue. I regret that I was unable to speak with Julian about it before we all started to catch flights out of Hamburg. I will look closer at the IDC spec to ensure there are no inconsistencies in it with regard to NOA. This issue likely needs to be addressed in the DDP spec as well and the comments below are hereby forwarded to Julian Longson, the DDP OPI, who is currently reviewing the entire DDP document with the IMO IT division. If anyone has comments on NOA - - or any other matter - - as it may effect the IDC spec, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks to all for your input. Best regards, Bill Cairns, FRIN Principal Navigation Engineer Commandant (CG-3PWN) USCG William.R.Cairns(a)uscg.mil V: 202-372-1557 F: 202-372-1930 -----Original Message----- From: PeverettT(a)DFO-MPO.GC.CA [mailto:PeverettT@DFO-MPO.GC.CA] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:23 PM To: ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca Cc: Saeid Khorsandi; Bertorelli, John; Cairns, William Subject: FW: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and BillingStandard Hello Saeid This is to confirm that I received your comments, however they do not appear to have been received by all on the reflector. For that reason I have forwarded your e-mail directly to Bill Cairns, and am resending your comments to the wider reflector as well. I am also requesting, by means of this e-mail, that my colleague John Bertorelli check the reflector to try to determine why some messages are not getting through. Best regards Tracy Tracy Peverett Senior Policy Analyst Canadian Coast Guard Tel: 1-613-990-4046 Fax: 1-613-998-3255 e-mail: peverettT(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca ________________________________ From: Saeid Khorsandi [mailto:khorsandi@PSO.IR] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:10 AM To: ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca Cc: Peverett, Tracy Subject: RE: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and Billing Standard Hi Bill /All Following to our conversation within the Hamburg meeting about the NOA I would like to inform you that as far as you said in last meeting the NOA is a notice outside of the LRIT system but according to part 4.4 of Draft Guidance on Setting up and Maintaining the LRIT Data Distribution Plan : " Paragraph 16.1.3 contains the standing order for port State tracking. If the distance from a port is used, then the information from section 11.2.6 must be used in conjunction with this standing order. Although this is a standing order, a Notice of Arrival (NOA) must still be transmitted by the Contracting Government through its Data Centre to the destination Data Centre. The information contained in the standing order should include, but is not limited to, the following: ship name, IMO ship identification number, vessel's flag state and the distance from the Contracting Government's port " About the access to information as a Port State , as far as you know a Port State request is always triggered by a Notice of Arrival but who is responsible for sending the NOA and how? and who will be responsible for confirming access to the information ? Is there any unique format for NOA in the LRIT system? For your information currently the format of NOA are different around the world and being issued by the agent of ships to the destination port which the contracting government doesn't have any information about the ship destination . Regards Khorsandi Senior expert of marine communication P.S.O - Iran ________________________________ From: ccglrit-gcclrit-bounces(a)lists.ncf.ca [mailto:ccglrit-gcclrit-bounces@lists.ncf.ca] On Behalf Of Peverett, Tracy Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:23 PM To: ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca Cc: hhesse(a)imo.org; ncharala(a)imo.org Subject: Re: [Ccglrit-gcclrit] Revised Draft LRIT Costing and Billing Standard Hello, attached please find the following two documents: 1. IDC spec 2. Annex on technical criteria for location of the IDC Still to come today are the Comms, IDE and testing specs. DDP update will be circulated next week. A reminder that comments on all documents must be received no later than June 29. Also, given ungoing problems that some of you have been experiencing with the reflector, it would be appreciated if any comments you might have on this or any of the other documents be sent to the reflector with a cc directly to me at peverettt(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:peverettt@dfo-mpo.gc.ca> I will respond to all e-mails confirming that the message has been received via the reflector; if not I will ensure that comments are distributed to the reflector from this end. If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at peverettt(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:peverettt@dfo-mpo.gc.ca> Best regards, Tracy Tracy Peverett Senior Policy Analyst Canadian Coast Guard Tel: 1-613-990-4046 Fax: 1-613-998-3255 e-mail: peverettT(a)dfo-mpo.gc.ca _______________________________________________ Ccglrit-gcclrit mailing list Ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca http://lists.ncf.ca/mailman/listinfo/ccglrit-gcclrit _______________________________________________ Ccglrit-gcclrit mailing list Ccglrit-gcclrit(a)lists.ncf.ca http://lists.ncf.ca/mailman/listinfo/ccglrit-gcclrit World Maritime Day 2007: IMO's Response to Current Environmental Challenges -- Disclaimer Notice This email may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient you may not disclose, copy, distribute or retain any part of this message or attachments. 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