Thanks for bringing up the cyclist responsibilities Geoff. It would be really nice to see some sort of education piece regarding cycling and road safety for our community. Both riders and drivers seem to be extermely unaware of what the safest practices and laws for cyclist are.

Ann

From: Geoff Clement <gmclem@kent.net>
To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group <ckcycle@lists.ncf.ca>
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 4:42:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CKcycle] FW: CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

Me again !!

Let's not forget the DOG issue in the country. I've already been bitten on the leg. (That dog is dead now !!!) Dog owners in Chatham-Kent have a responsibility to control their animals by law.

To comment on the writer below, I understand his point, BUT it's illegal to ride on the sidewalk. He should ride the road and learn to deal with the idiot drivers. Car drivers need to realize that bicycles are vehicles and should be given proper clearance and respect. Also bicycle riders need to learn that they to are a vehicle and should be ridden on the RIGHT with the flow of traffic. The people who (are told to) ride against the flow on the left are asking for an accident. It's far harder drive around someone coming toward you than it is to pass in the same direction.

OK I'm done bitching for now, but I think these points are valid.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Brousseau

To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group

Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:55 PM

Subject: [CKcycle] FW: CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

Just got this from one of my co-worker…

Thought to share it also.

From: Matt Somogyvary
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Dan Brousseau
Subject: RE: [CKcycle] CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

We need to have some awareness for drivers. I personally ride the sidewalk because its too dangerous to ride the road. Agreed the debris along the curbs is bad for cyclists. Even though I ride a mountain bike the point remains.

For me its safer to ride the sidewalk and worry about cars coming out of driveways, (disc brakes rule the stopping world.) I ride against traffic on the sidewalks so I can see oncoming turning traffic in to the plazas. Riding on the other side means I cant see who is turing into me. Its happened befor. A car cut me off, misjudging my speed. Forcing me to lock the brakes.

Mostly im worried about the side mirrors, of passing traffic being too close to my elbow.

From: Dan Brousseau
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:31 PM
To: Matt Somogyvary
Subject: FW: [CKcycle] CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

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From: ckcycle-bounces@lists.ncf.ca [mailto:ckcycle-bounces@lists.ncf.ca] On Behalf Of Geoff Clement
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:18 PM
To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group
Subject: Re: [CKcycle] CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

On this, the main safety item I think city needs to address is bike lanes in the area. It's all well and good painting pretty lines all over the place, but personally I won't be riding my road bike on them as this is where all the crud ends up and besides, the surface is usually broken up or just too rough. OK for mountain bikes I guess, but useless for us. OK, we typically ride out of town, but not always. I think it is good that there is some sort of "barrier" between the cars and bikes, but I think that this whole issue was contrived by non-cyclists.

Comments?

Geoff.

----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Brousseau

To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 7:33 PM

Subject: [CKcycle] CycleCK.ca Meeting this Thursday and need your input

hehehe Rach tried to send this out and seems to have failed on her :-)

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Attention Chatham Kent Riders, with the opening season upon us we are looking for suggestions for the website cycleck.ca which is down for the time being, creating better the awareness, safety and opening the door of more of the community to enjoy the sport and participate. The Silent Ride in May is just one of the suggestions that have been made for this year. As well the VIA Bike Train program has added Southwest Ontario as a pilot for this year. Promoting Chatham to be one of there stops show casing historical sites of the Underground Railroad and local wineries. Possibilities of a printed map showing routes like what Ottawa has with the National Capital Commission (I believe Dan has one from Ottawa).

All suggestions welcome.

Rachael

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NOTE Matt and I have been invited to a CycleCK.ca meeting scheduled for this Thursday evening where some of CK big wigs to be there. Anything we as a group can come up with I shall be glad to present.

>From Safety Concerns on certain roads to Tourism

Lets not forget that we are the one riding in this area so what can be done to make it better or attack more people, even tourists...

Dan

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