Okay will do. 

Clarice

Albert Einstein once said that “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

On Fri, Nov 7, 2025, 9:30 a.m. Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:

Just updating you on this particular initiative. Support was not overwhelming and, as a result of side conversations, I had some further thoughts on it. The laundry list of potential harms seemed unnecessary to the issue of the short time line (30 days) for such an important consultation. The suggestion that citizens boycott the 30 day consultation if it goes ahead, which it probably will, didn't seem to be in our interest.  Perhaps the better way to suggest that the consultation be extended is as a response to the consultation itself. So, I let the clock run out which was easy as it came in so late it was only a matter of a few hours. I don't know if this came up again in the budget. If anyone sees this consultation going on, please share that info. We could certainly organize a TC response.

Marita

On 2025-10-29 4:31 p.m., Garth Graham wrote:
While a first glance at the letter feels to me like it goes much farther than necessary to make the point, I note the intention t "to confront the ongoing threats of AI to people and communities.  Given that ref to communities, yes, we should be there.

GG

On Oct 29, 2025, at 11:32 AM, Marita Moll <mmoll@ca.inter.net> wrote:

Hello advisors. I just received this request to sign on to a letter asking for more/longer/better consultation on AI. The consultation proposed by ISED will only run 30 days. Looks like the deadline to sign on to this letter is Oct. 30 so I will need a quick response.  You can read the letter in the link below. Individuals can sign on using the form but I am seeking your permission to sign TC on as an organization. I think it would also be great if we chose, as a group, to participate in the consultation that is proposed as an alternative. This initiative is spearheaded by Fenwick Mckelvey -- well know communications and info. technology prof. at Concordia. 

rom: acc-cca-L <acc-cca-l-bounces@mailman.ucalgary.ca> on behalf of Fenwick Mckelvey <fenwick.mckelvey@concordia.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 2:12 PM
To: CCA Listserv <acc-cca-l@mailman.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: [acc-cca-l] Public opposition to 30 AI Sprint / People's Consultation on AI
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Hi all
I'm writing to let you know about a Canada-wide civil society initiative, spearheaded by several civil liberties and digital rights organizations and individuals who were active on Bill 27's Artificial Intelligence and Data Act (AIDA), to protest the federal government's thirty-day "National Sprint" on AI, and ask if you or your organization would be willing to sign a joint letter to that effect.
 We explain in the letter, among other critiques, that thirty days is an unreasonably short window of consultation given the far-reaching scope and depth of AI's impacts on society; canvas the wide range of known AI-related harms that are already evident today; and ask for a deadline extension to February 2026. For me, the short timeline does not address concerns raised in my own research around the lack of meaningful public engagement on: https://www.amo-oma.ca/en/ai-policy-report/ and https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1007/s00146-024-01952-w
 We are also setting up a parallel civil society process, the People's Consultation on AI, so that those whose input should be considered but do not have capacity to meet the government's rushed timeline, will still have an opportunity to have their say.  The sign-on form and letter itself are available here: https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/jYtfY12tSWH-oYCUGBv06BDpLm97LNcVEayPOBv32Js/
 Please note that signing the letter does not mean committing to participating in the People's Consultation on AI, and that a French translation will be available in the upcoming days.
 If you could circulate this letter to other individuals and NGOs you believe would be interested, in particular those who may not have been previously involved in tech or AI issues but whose communities are or would be impacted, that would be greatly appreciated.  Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you so much for considering!
 Be good,
Fenwick

Marita
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