Re: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday andneed your input

Dan,You can talk your way out of using a bell but not a speeding ticket. From: gmclem(a)kent.net To: ckcycle(a)lists.ncf.ca Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:16:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday andneed your input Hey Dan, I agree completely, no argument there. Obviously you have been on the receiving end of this stupid section of the law that is intended for little boys and girls. My points were meant to be sarcasm only. G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Brousseau To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday andneed your input For enforcing the law, what was HIGH LIGHTED is not the little gizmo but for the rules of the road… Red Lights, Stop Signs, No Sidewalk Riding. In Ottawa I was able to fight the reflector and bell in a municipal court and won 3 times. My voice is more courteous and louder than a dinky bell J when I want to pass someone… Plus if they have their walk man blaring, no way will they hear the bell. Nor will cars with the windows up with the AC on in the summer. :-P Daniel Brousseau Bilingual Technical Support Soutien Technique Bilingue TekSavvy Solutions Inc. 330 Richmond Street, Suite 205 Chatham, ON, N7M 1P7 Toll Free: 877-779-1575 Sans Frais: 800-368-6909 Tel: 519-360-1575 Fax: 519-360-1716 E-mail: d.brousseau(a)teksavvy.ca URL: www.teksavvy.com This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is subject to copyright, privileged, confidential, proprietary or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, distributing, copying or in any way using this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy or delete copies you may have received. P Thank you for thinking about the environment before printing this e-mail. From: ckcycle-bounces(a)lists.ncf.ca [mailto:ckcycle-bounces@lists.ncf.ca] On Behalf Of Geoff Clement Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:46 AM To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group Subject: Re: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday and need your input Ditto that !! I have no problem with emails through the group, as long as the CK cycling project people know we are just a bunch of INDEPENDENT cyclists, not a club as we all have discussed before. One fly-in-the-ointment on enforcing the law, which I am in favour of to a point, is we would likely have to put little bells on our road bikes, wouldn't that be cute !!!. Oh! don't forget those wheel and pedal reflectors. I don't have a problem with lights, most of us use rear light anyway. Good job Dan & Matt. Geoff PS. went for a 12.5 mile ride yesterday, boy, were those S.E. winds strong......... could barely do 10 mph coming home !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: randy.perdu(a)bell.ca To: ckcycle(a)lists.ncf.ca Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday and need your input Good job you guys!!! Thanks for your diligence and hard work,hopefully the powers to be will listen!!!! From: ckcycle-bounces(a)lists.ncf.ca [mailto:ckcycle-bounces@lists.ncf.ca] On Behalf Of Dan Brousseau Sent: March 11, 2010 10:41 PM To: Chatham-Kent Commmunity Cycling Group Subject: [CKcycle] UPDATE - CycleCK.ca Meeting thism Thursday and need your input Hey everyone, Just back home.... what can I say about this eveing meeting... There was the topic of Bike Stands and more stands and more stands LOL. Someone was very adamant on them racks and their cost being too high even thus there was a bidding process done through the city. Seems there is a $60,000 fund set asside for them and the way it is being approached it bit by bit... (estimated cost for them is $170-$200 installed - little expensive but good with labour) The Cycling Council of Chatham is looking at get an 8% of the poopulation to be riding their bikes by 2020 They are looking on meeting with company CEO's on promoting cycling to work. There is also about 1.5 million dollars for cycling in the CK area... Some disscussion as to where the bike grid would be at... Now this is looking at a 5 year plan but some of the following to be touched in the Chatham area Paths or lanes on the following was disscussed; McNaughton from the College to Sandy Keil from Richmond to Prestancia project Sandy from the bridge to Gregory Lacroix from Park Ave to Bridge Queen from Indian Creek all the way downtown There was a mention from Richmond and Bloomfield to Riverview and then to Keil St-Claire from Gregory to Walmart As surprised as I was Grand between Keil to Sandy was not there... Man that bit is ROUGH Other topics where not realy touched due to the overly extensive disscussion on bike rack cost/bidding... but I did bring it up to the president to the Cycling Counsil (durring the bike rack crap) of the comments from our group. She stated she's in charge of also getting the stuff redy to educate the puplic... the catch phrase that will be used is Same Road Same Rules Same Rights All are concerns that was brought is already on her list. Now after the meeting was done I managed to speak to James(Rides with us Sundays) who is part of the Cycling Counsil on who they approche for the Police to enforce present laws. Seems this was already done and there was a few Radio add by the CK Police to let Cyclists know they should not be riding on the side walks. To me this is not enforcing the law but seems they are also putting in considerations the risks involved... Bad Cyclists/Bad Drivers James is on my side with this... if the law is known and enforced to everyone this will curb the bad habits of people... The CycleCK.ca guy thinks that they working on this... But working on it is useless as they are not enforcing the laws that are already in place. So seems there is a meeting with City Hall on the 16th and James took the info on the Cycling Laws to throw the book at them saying what the police are doing is a waste of time as the work is already in place to enforce them. So any how Matt and I did the best we can to represent us as a group for the cycling community. Now my last comment is a question to all... would you like that I give them access to being able to email in to this list on any updates that come through for the CK Cycling Project. Reason I ask is they would like everyone to at least be on their emailing list by sending them your email address, but the simplest way I think is giving them permission to post as Non member to this list instead. Keeping your info private up to a point. Let me know Dan ps Matt if I missed anything go ahead and add it. :-) _______________________________________________ CKcycle mailing list CKcycle(a)lists.ncf.ca http://lists.ncf.ca/mailman/listinfo/ckcycle _______________________________________________ CKcycle mailing list CKcycle(a)lists.ncf.ca http://lists.ncf.ca/mailman/listinfo/ckcycle _________________________________________________________________ Live connected with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712958