To the group. I have some more detailed info on the two bikes that my friends have for sale. I think this will help if you're interested. Let me know if you need more help or contact Jill. see below. Geoff. Hi Geoff, Here is more information about the road bikes..... Both have ..... Shimano 600 components... Titanium frames Triple T Bars Continental Grand Prix 3000 Kevlar Tires (700 x 23C) Mavic Rims These bikes were specially built to accommodate my messed up wrist after the car accident, that is why the shock forks, and I picked out the components, frame, rims etc. myself, and had Racer Sportif build them. They are not off the rack bikes. Originally each bike cost $5000. They have been ridden about 500 miles. The tires were new two years ago, but we never got out to ride them, because Diane broke both wrists. And as I have said before, these bikes are kept hanging inside where it is warm. The Black trim bike has a Mozo Stratus Q front shock fork. A regular fork could be installed instead, if one wanted to change the fork on either bike.) The Blue trimmed bike has a Marzocci front shock fork. Both of these shock forks are for road bikes, they are not mountain bike forks. I will attach pictures with measurements....and other pictures of my bike's components......components are the same on both bikes.....only the forks are different. We are asking $1500. firm for each bike. Thanks Jill J.E. Ellis Gen. Del. Dover Centre, ON, Canada N0P 1L0 Ph: 519-351-0679 Cell: 519-380-5502 Email: mantis@ kent.net