Okay will do.
Clarice
Albert Einstein once said that “Insanity is doing the same thing over and
over again and expecting different results.”
On Fri, Nov 7, 2025, 9:30 a.m. Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net> wrote:
Just updating you on this particular initiative. Support was not
overwhelming and, as a result of side conversations, I had some further
thoughts on it. The laundry list of potential harms seemed unnecessary to
the issue of the short time line (30 days) for such an important
consultation. The suggestion that citizens boycott the 30 day consultation
if it goes ahead, which it probably will, didn't seem to be in our
interest. Perhaps the better way to suggest that the consultation be
extended is as a response to the consultation itself. So, I let the clock
run out which was easy as it came in so late it was only a matter of a few
hours. I don't know if this came up again in the budget. If anyone sees
this consultation going on, please share that info. We could certainly
organize a TC response.
Marita
On 2025-10-29 4:31 p.m., Garth Graham wrote:
While a first glance at the letter feels to me like it goes much farther than necessary
to make the point, I note the intention t "to confront the ongoing threats of AI to
people and communities. Given that ref to communities, yes, we should be there.
GG
On Oct 29, 2025, at 11:32 AM, Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net>
<mmoll(a)ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hello advisors. I just received this request to sign on to a letter asking for
more/longer/better consultation on AI. The consultation proposed by ISED will only run 30
days. Looks like the deadline to sign on to this letter is Oct. 30 so I will need a quick
response. You can read the letter in the link below. Individuals can sign on using the
form but I am seeking your permission to sign TC on as an organization. I think it would
also be great if we chose, as a group, to participate in the consultation that is proposed
as an alternative. This initiative is spearheaded by Fenwick Mckelvey -- well know
communications and info. technology prof. at Concordia.
rom: acc-cca-L <acc-cca-l-bounces(a)mailman.ucalgary.ca>
<acc-cca-l-bounces(a)mailman.ucalgary.ca> on behalf of Fenwick Mckelvey
<fenwick.mckelvey(a)concordia.ca> <fenwick.mckelvey(a)concordia.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 2:12 PM
To: CCA Listserv <acc-cca-l(a)mailman.ucalgary.ca>
<acc-cca-l(a)mailman.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: [acc-cca-l] Public opposition to 30 AI Sprint / People's Consultation on AI
[△EXTERNAL]
Hi all
I'm writing to let you know about a Canada-wide civil society initiative, spearheaded
by several civil liberties and digital rights organizations and individuals who were
active on Bill 27's Artificial Intelligence and Data Act (AIDA), to protest the
federal government's thirty-day "National Sprint" on AI, and ask if you or
your organization would be willing to sign a joint letter to that effect.
We explain in the letter, among other critiques, that thirty days is an unreasonably
short window of consultation given the far-reaching scope and depth of AI's impacts on
society; canvas the wide range of known AI-related harms that are already evident today;
and ask for a deadline extension to February 2026. For me, the short timeline does not
address concerns raised in my own research around the lack of meaningful public engagement
on:
https://www.amo-oma.ca/en/ai-policy-report/ and
https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1007/s00146-024-01952-w
We are also setting up a parallel civil society process, the People's Consultation
on AI, so that those whose input should be considered but do not have capacity to meet the
government's rushed timeline, will still have an opportunity to have their say. The
sign-on form and letter itself are available here:
https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/jYtfY12tSWH-oYCUGBv06BDpLm97LNcVEa...
Please note that signing the letter does not mean committing to participating in the
People's Consultation on AI, and that a French translation will be available in the
upcoming days.
If you could circulate this letter to other individuals and NGOs you believe would be
interested, in particular those who may not have been previously involved in tech or AI
issues but whose communities are or would be impacted, that would be greatly appreciated.
Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you so much for considering!
Be good,
Fenwick
Marita
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